Batman: The Dark Knight

[Advocate]

I have a ton, but I will only unleash if more than 2 people are interested.

[Celebrant]

Unleash!

[Advocate]

Better tell your fellow compadres to vote in here. Once I get more than 4 I'll unleash my Batman info.

[Celebrant]

Damn that number just doubled within two posts! Lol.

This is like the reverse of the Sodom and Gamorrah, God and Abraham story.

[Advocate]

Now I need 8.

Kidding. 4

[Bruhaha69]

What do you have?

[Advocate]

alot.

[Hunter]

Save it for Friday! Make them listen!!!

[Advocate]

Its pics though. I can't show pics on radio. :)

[Bruhaha69]

Just explain them to us in great detail. We'll pretend radio is the only form of media. It'll be exciting!

[Advocate]

It will be quite boring. But if you insist.

[oneironama]

GO FOR IT! :alexkidd:

[Hunter]

lmao. It will be like the twenties!! Aside from the whole streaming internet thing. :p

[Celebrant]

Haha you're the Orson Welles of Got-Next Radio. Panic in the streets! The Dark Knight Returns! War of the superheroes!

[Advocate]

If you heard my radio reports I can get my voice that deep.

[oneironama]

The lack of Batman in this thread pains me :frown:



Kidding!

[Advocate]

I would post pics, but it seems not enough care.

[DarthArcturus]

I loved Batman Begins its one of my favorite movies ever. I demand pics (I've seen a few) I count 5 now

[Advocate]

OKay ... tomorrow I'll post some pics and info. Tonight I need to get my morning news report up.

[shinjirod]

i care

[jp]

*cares*

[Advocate]

tomorrow when I'm up I'll gather all the info I have.

[Advocate]

start from the top and work downward.

Batman: The Dark Knight

SUPER DUPER NEWS OVERLOAD ADVOCATE SPECIAL!

Aaron Eckert as Two-face aka Harvey Dent

http://www.the-nextlevel.com/board/attachment.php?attachmentid=22722&stc=1&d=1171576578


Info from TNL that I tried to post, but asked an admin.

Its about Rachael Dawes (whos playing her) and about a costume change mid-way through (http://www.the-nextlevel.com/board/showpost.php?p=1063822671&postcount=124)

Scarecrow to return? (http://www.the-nextlevel.com/board/showpost.php?p=1063825047&postcount=133)

Joker behind blurry glass:
http://www.aintitcool.com/images2007/JokerImax.jpg

Henchmen:
http://www.aintitcool.com/images2007/JokerMask.jpg

New Batsuit:
http://www.the-nextlevel.com/board/attachment.php?attachmentid=24722&stc=1&d=1181874168

Batpod:
http://www.the-nextlevel.com/board/attachment.php?attachmentid=24798&stc=1&d=1182175600
http://www.the-nextlevel.com/board/attachment.php?attachmentid=24799&stc=1&d=1182176042

Hi-Res shot of the Batsuit:
http://home.comcast.net/%7Eceoadvocate/batmannewsuit.jpg

Hi Res Batpod:
http://home.comcast.net/%7Eceoadvocate/batpod1.jpg

Batman set report

here. (http://www.the-nextlevel.com/board/showpost.php?p=1063887176&postcount=389)

Returning Bad Guy spotted.

here. (http://www.the-nextlevel.com/board/showpost.php?p=1063887187&postcount=390)

More rumors and pretty much confirmed later in my Batman reports on TNL.

here. (http://www.the-nextlevel.com/board/showpost.php?p=1063887230&postcount=396)

Confirmation on rumor.

here. (http://www.the-nextlevel.com/board/showpost.php?p=1063896821&postcount=409)

Perfect selection IMO.

here. (http://www.the-nextlevel.com/board/showpost.php?p=1063896827&postcount=411)

Spy shots of Joker.

here. (http://www.the-nextlevel.com/board/showpost.php?p=1063902728&postcount=453)


More spoilers.

here. (http://www.the-nextlevel.com/board/showpost.php?p=1063903616&postcount=466)

So that's it for now. Let's see if this stays on topic.

[Hunter]

Oh god, I hope they don't have a million enemies. Two-face, the joker, and scarecrow? WTF?


Other than that, everything looks mind-blowing.

[Advocate]

so this is why I didn't want to do this. No conversation.

[jp]

I think its looking fairly cool. Still don't know how I feel about Ledger being the Joker (Mark Hamil FTW!), but we shall see.

Glad to see the Scarecrow will be coming back. Thats the shit.

[Bruhaha69]

I hope the fight scenes aren't so close up and shaky this time. That was one thing I didn't like about Batman Begins. It wasn't awful, I just didn't like them too much.

I like the suit. It'll be weird to see him moving his head around. I've become used to Batman moving his entire body to look around in these movies.

Do we have any idea how long this is supposed to be after Batman Begins? I'm hoping it's not too far out because the look of the bike is a bit too much like the Batmobile in Begins. It's cool, but it doesn't really scream "Batman" to me. Whatever the case is, I loved Begins, so I'm looking forward to this.

[DarthArcturus]

awesome news and pics advocate. I am concerned about the amount of villians too as we know how Spiderman 3 handled that..

[Advocate]

To Hunter and Darth: Batman Begins had 4 villians. Scarecrow, The slimeball CEO, Rash, and Falcone. Now its reduced to 2 main and the other ones have small 30 second cameoes to set up their appearance for future sequels.

To Bru: Not far off actually. Its been only 3 months.

To JP: Heath Leger was handed two things for his role.

1: A DVD of a Clockwork Orange.
2: The Graphic Novel - A Killing Joke.
Nolan said A colockwork Orange is how the film will feel. So Nolan said pay more attention to the aura of the film. The way its shot and the mood. He said when you read the Killing Joke. That's how I want YOU to act as the joker.

May I add ... Nolan is the man. One A Clockwork Orange is awesome and a Killing Joke was the best damn Joker story .... ever. So if Nolan did what he said he did. I have NO DOUBT about Leger being the Joker.

None.

[DarthArcturus]

Nolan is one of the best directors right now. Every movie he has made has been brillant.

as for the villians good point for Begins and glad to hear it won't pull a spiderman 3.

[Advocate]

At face value it seems like alot of villians. Yet, after closer inspection. You can see that is not the case. This is also the first Batman movie where the bad guy from the previous movie shows up in the next one.

Oh and Ra's is not dead, but he's not going to be in this one.

[DarthArcturus]

spoiler tag please

[Advocate]

That's a rumor and my guess.

[oneironama]

This is also the first Batman movie where the bad guy from the previous movie shows up in the next one.

Oh and Ra's is not dead, but he's not going to be in this one.I hope you're right, Ra's can't go out like that. :(

[Da_Shocker]

THe Joker played in Brokeback Mountain LMAO. THe Bat Pod looks and sounds retarded.

[DarthArcturus]

have some faith.

[Hunter]

Faith is for fascists.

[DarthArcturus]

there is no reason at all to believe that this movie will not be great. Its all the nearly all the same cast and the returning director who is one of the best right now. The casting of the Joker will be fine because its under better care than any other previous batman movie.

[Advocate]

I saw the teaser trailer ...

Heath Leger is fine.

'nuff said ... have a good day.

TRAILER!!!!

http://www.vidstumbler.com/vid/2496.htm
[post updated]
I like the ode' to Jack Nicholson when he exhales "I'm a man of my wordahhh!"

[Da_Shocker]

Jack Nickolson>BBM guy!

[Advocate]

http://www.the-nextlevel.com/board/attachment.php?attachmentid=25637&d=1185563048

[Da_Shocker]

I take that back. This Joker looks liek he will be a bad ass.

[Advocate]

exactly.

[Advocate]

http://www.whysoserious.com/


http://www.whysoserious.com/policereport.htm

[DarthArcturus]

joker looks scary :(

[Luminous]

Great stuff so far. The only thing I heard that I really don't like is that Ras is not dead. Of course that is rumor, but how many villains are they going to end up with as the movies progress? Liam Neeson is a great actor so it's not like he will damage any future films, but I would prefer the Joker be the repeat offender.


Either way great info. :D

[Advocate]

Ras will not be in this movie.

[Advocate]

Description of Trailer from Wizard World.

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/33653

[Hunter]

Yeah, I was so mad when they killed Ras. RAS DOES NOT DIE!! Yes, I know he CAN die, but it's stupid for him to die so easily. It will be good to see him in future flicks.

[Advocate]

In the sake of legal matters I will say these are OLD pics.

http://www.the-nextlevel.com/board/attachment.php?attachmentid=26095&stc=1&d=1187332309

http://www.the-nextlevel.com/board/attachment.php?attachmentid=26096&stc=1&d=1187332309

http://www.the-nextlevel.com/board/attachment.php?attachmentid=26100&stc=1&d=1187332309

http://www.the-nextlevel.com/board/attachment.php?attachmentid=26103&stc=1&d=1187332309

http://www.the-nextlevel.com/board/attachment.php?attachmentid=26097&stc=1&d=1187332309

http://www.the-nextlevel.com/board/attachment.php?attachmentid=26098&stc=1&d=1187332309

and more where that came from ...

http://www.the-nextlevel.com/board/showpost.php?p=1063920143&postcount=513

[Hunter]

I don't like the look of the new joker.

[DarthArcturus]

I think he looks badass

[Hunter]

I think he looks like a hobo clown.

[Advocate]

I think he looks badass, especially when you combine these pictures with the report of the trailer that was shown at Wizard World.

[Hunter]

Hobo Junkie Clown . . .

http://got-next.com/board/attachment.php?attachmentid=1203&stc=1&d=1187375515

[Advocate]

Hobo Junkie Clown . . .

http://got-next.com/board/attachment.php?attachmentid=1203&stc=1&d=1187375515

After him and Batman tussle in the room. Hence why he looks like he does.

[RawkHawkHarrier]

OH MAN!!! It's SO hard to not build this up too much! Seriously, I CAN NOT WAIT to see this movie!!! SERIOUSLY!!! Dang, it's looking REALLY cool in just the few shots you have there! The Joker looks great in the same way Scarecrow looked great based on his transition from comics to the big screen! Definitely different with the long hair... but with it not being so perfectly combed, it can play off a more craziness of the character too... but I'm wondering if he's going to be REALLY crazy yet, or if this will play off him getting crazier and crazier as things progress. Should be interesting!

I just watched Batman Begins for like the 30th time, and dang, I STILL love that movie! I was going to have it playing in the background while I did other things around the house, but I ended up getting hooked and watched the whole thing again! It's strange though, because there isn't like ONE scene in Begins that really stands out as really great, but the whole movie just works SO WELL in my opinion! It's going to be a hard one to top, and I don't want to get my expectations set TOO high for the sequel, but dang... The Joker is one of the greatest villains ever created, and if they do him justice, then it could potentially be the best comic movies EVER! Hopefully they don't kill him off like they did with Jack! :|

Thanks for the info Advocate! :D

[DarthArcturus]

new trailer

YWz3t9c5BlY


I can't fucking wait. Nolan can do no wrong

[Luminous]

That new trailer is badass. :D

[lordsnarf]

Yeah, this looks awesome. I wasn't too worried about it though. Can not wait to see this.

[bahn]

new trailer

YWz3t9c5BlY


I can't fucking wait. Nolan can do no wrong

Better off going to the actual Dark Knight site to enjoy this in all its glory... HD glory that is. Watching it on YouTube seems so plain...

[DarthArcturus]

this is true I deserve a ban :p

[Hunter]

Id be happy to oblige.

[DarthArcturus]

Id be happy to oblige.

please do hunter. SHOW ME YOUR TRUE POWER! [smilie=maulsmilie.:

[Advocate]

New movie posters.

[Advocate]

why so serious? (http://www.whysoserious.com/myhero/)

[Bruhaha69]

How does everyone feel about the very normal looking city? Looks a bit too regular for a Batman environment.

[jp]

why so serious? (http://www.whysoserious.com/myhero/)

OH. MY. GOD.


:drooling: :drooling: :drooling:

[Advocate]

How does everyone feel about the very normal looking city? Looks a bit too normal compared to the Schumacher Batman environment.

fixed.

And what does that mean? Have you checked out the Batman comics recently? Its not like Man of Tomorrow shit. Its a city.


also: movie posters.
http://www.the-nextlevel.com/board/picture.php?albumid=7&pictureid=13

http://www.the-nextlevel.com/board/attachment.php?attachmentid=34545&stc=1&d=1209102867

[Bruhaha69]

No, I'm not talking about the old movie. Only basis is the comics I have from early 90's. It wasn't so lively and bright. Even Batman Begins didn't look the same as the city they're showing it in the Dark Knight.

[Advocate]

I don't understand. The city in Begins is a city. He is basing it off of reality and not trying to comic book it up.

[Bruhaha69]

Not sure what you don't understand. If we're only talking about these latest 2 movies, the first had a very dark atmosphere and city while this one looks like NY city with Football stadium lighting (based on the previews I've seen). it just looks to plain-old city for my tastes.

[Advocate]

The first was shot almost entirely at night. This one is using the light and dark to contrast between Two Face ... being good and evil. Also, this one he faces his fears and who he REALLY is ... is he a villain or a hero.

So, yeah thats why I didn't get what you were talking about. I've followed this movie for a long time. So, excuse me.

[Bruhaha69]

That's fine. I just don't think the city looks like Gotham as I envisioned it if it was real. I've never bought Batman comics like I know you have, so I'm not questioning your knowledge of Batman. I just don't quite like the way it looks in the ads/promos/trailers that I've seen.

[Advocate]

The thing is that Nolan said he wanted to make Batman real. Like if Batman was a real person and in a real city, would he be like this? So in this sense with what you are saying ... He achieved his goal.

I just thought everyone on Sestren has been following this movie, like I have. I was wrong. Sorry. If anyone wants me to pull all the news I posted on the "OTHER" board I will. So, you guys can be up to date.

[jp]

"I believe in Harvey Dent."




OOOOOOHHHHHHH MYYYYYYYYY GOD!!!!!!!!!! :drooling: :drooling:


This is like a Batman comic book fans dream. Especially if you loved "The Long Halloween". :drooling:

[Advocate]

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[Bruhaha69]

Nah, I haven't been paying attention to this one. I thought Begins was great, but I haven't kept any tabs on who handles what and their inspirations for doing it.

[jp]

July 18th cannot get here soon enough.


Though... well... what Joker are they basing this off of? Because the way they're doing him seems very very very different from the way he is... in... well... everything.

I dunno, very rare that you see the Joker walking around looking like a bum. And from the trailers he's just... not quite psychotic enough. Too organized. Especially if he's offering his services to the crime lords... thats not something the Joker would do...

I dunno, I remember reading they wanted this to be like "The Killing Joke", but this portrayal of the Joker isn't making me think that. In fact, this portrayal isn't really making me think of any versions of the Joker.

Not necessarily saying thats a bad thing mind you. Just making an observation.

[Advocate]

They are basing the Joker off of ...

I'm serious on this ...

A Clockwork Orange.

with a TINGE of A Killing Joke. Ledger was handed all that stuff he looked at it and basically said he will do it how he sees it. Which is more of what I spoiled.

[Moriya]

Get Frank Miller to direct and make either this

http://batman.ugo.com/images/galleries/batman_thedarkknightreturns_comics/batman_thedarkknightreturns_2.jpg


or this

http://batman.ugo.com/images/galleries/batman_yearone_comics/batman_yearone_1.jpg


into a movie, and you've got one orgasmic Batman movie. Too bad it will never happen :(

Oh well, Dark Knight does look pretty good. I'll be there opening night.

[jp]

Psssh! Best Batman movie ever has already been made.




Mask of the Phantasm. :drooling: Shit was awesome.

[KANG the Crybaby]

I had a movie party at my house last weekend, and one of the films we watched was Batman Begins on HDDVD. I had a number of friends who want to see the new Heath Ledger one and had never seen the first. The film looks amazing in highdef, and I've owned it on HDDVD for well over a year and a half, I think it's comical that it doesn't even come out on bluray until next month.

[DarthArcturus]

Reason love these films is the realism they bring. Sure escapism is fine but batman is too dark to have too much fantasy stuff.

Movie is ganna be fucking awesome.

[RawkHawkHarrier]

So now that the movie is out, can we turn this into an official "Movie discussion; spoilers not marked" thread?

Awesome movie BTW! Definitely the best Batman movie I've EVER seen... INCLUDING Mask of the Phantasm! :o

[DarthArcturus]

you can talk about it here if you want hawk but most of people's thoughts on the movie are in the sticky thread for recently viewed movies.

[Advocate]

Yo, I saw it this evening and I have to write this. IT FUCKING ROCKED!

"It'll do ... till the Dark Knight comes out, then you're screwed."

"Christian Bale will kick your ass."

How prophetic were those words. Yeah we all knew it would be good, but THIS GOOD?

The hypetrain left the station and I am at the front cab, WHOOOP WHOOOP!

Holy Crap! The writing to the acting was excellent. Each person delivered, it was more than a comic/superhero movie it truly was a great overall movie. I agree that you need to see it twice to fully comprehend the overall story. Its a multi-layered movie, more than you expect a typical summer movie to be. I read everyones take on it and avoided the spoilers. But I didn't really think I would be thrust into a world as complex as the current run of Batman by Grant Morrison. The music fit the film it wasn't anything to write home about, but it wasn't annoying either. It fit and always kept the tempo of the film, which is what it should do. I mean jesus the themes in that are the same damn thing in Batman RIP. He's being put through the ringer. By someone he doesn't quite understand. He thinks of leaving the business and he has to chose in doing something he never thought he'd do.

I do agree the fight scenes were better this time. And yes Dyne he did a two fisted punch, it was at the High Rise tower in HK. After he crashes into the window. I like the fact they pulled the camera back a bit. It still did the quick cuts, but it was less annoying and since it was pulled back the overall flow of the fight lasted a bit longer. The [quote]Dance Club figh scene was still a bit annopying, but I think it was more because of the strobe light.[/spoiler]

Yes its foreshadowing and yes most people do it, but Nolan did foreshadowing so well and contrasting day and night. Most of what The Joker did was during the day. And at Night Batman went on the attack. You could see that The Joker was creating Chaos for Batman. Does Bruce forego his secret identity and attack The Joker then ... or wait it out and attack him at night as Batman. In certain cases he chose to involve the Bruce persona to protect the innocent during the day. There by bluring the line between Batman and Bruce ... another theme in Batman RIP.

Great and memorable scenes for me:

I'm going to make this pencil disappear.
WHY SO SERIOUS? LET'S PUT A SMILE ON THAT FF-ACE!
The question about firepower to a swat van and then The Joker gets a bazooka.
Special package for The Commisioner.
"How do you plead?" The entire defendant side speaks up.
The Detonator.
The you got lucky, but he didn't? "Who?" "Your driver." BLAM!
Batman and The Joker's interogation. OMG. That was almost exactly Batman v. Joker in Hush. Holy crap. I was in tears of joy, that whole scene and the interaction was fucking Batman 614 Hush storyline. When Batman punches Jokers hand, that reaction was almost like in the comic where Harley smashes Jokers hand with a hammer.
The final words from The Joker to Batman ... yeah Killing Joke.

This is by far one of the best movies I've seen this summer. Not to mention the best representation of The Batman and his nemesis Joker ... ever. Iron Man is second, compared to this ... and I loved Iron Man.

good night going to bed. I have to get up in 2 hours for work. LOL.

[Frogacuda]

I saw this on Thursday. Pretty kick ass, though it was an odd mix of a grittier, more "realistic" take on the character (as realistic as can be expect for a man in a rubber bat suit fighting crime) and then cartoonishly over-the-top. Joker talks about never having a plan but every move he pulls is some 10-layers deep human Rube Goldberg device that would have taken months of planning and preparation. There's a certain point and which the need for giant ass explosions and cheesy "You fell into my trap!" moments were taking away from the impact of the movie not adding to it, and I wish this had the restraint of the first movie in that regard.

That said, what a fucking cast. Ledger's interpretation of Joker was so much better than I gave him credit for, and really gives Nicholson a run for his money. I also like that they didn't feel compelled to stick close to the formula and do a Joker origin story, and then even teased the lack of an origin by having the Joker tell the story differently each time. I appreciated that. There were a lot of really great Joker moments like the ones Adam mentioned. I could have lived with out "Bus driver?" *convenient A-Team crash that could never have been that perfect* and Blowing up the Hospital in a way that would have taken a team of demo experts months and required full access to all the facilities. It's ok, Nolan, we'll still think this is a good movie if there were just a handful of strategically placed charges. We aren't retarded.

So yeah, I'd have to watch Begins again before I decide if I prefer that or this. This had a much better villain and it wasn't hung up on trying to build a mythology, but it also seemed like they were trying too hard to spend their pyrotechnics budget in the hopes of hypnotizing the mouth-breathers, and it was unnecessary because it was a very entertaining movie.

[Frogacuda]

Awesome movie BTW! Definitely the best Batman movie I've EVER seen... INCLUDING Mask of the Phantasm! :o
You know, I've never seen Mask of the Phantasm, and I've seen every other episode of the animated series and it's my favorite on-screen version of the character... I really need to correct this.

[DarthArcturus]

I agree with what you said frog there were several unnecessarily cheesy lines during the semi chase. And yeah Joker seemed to have one brilliant plan after another and would always appear out of no where, but I let it slide for the most part because the strong points of the movie out weight all of that.

[Frogacuda]

Oh yeah, don't get me wrong, it was a really fun movie, just a few things keep me from declaring it the best Batman without further consideration. I was very sick and underslept when I saw it (still recovering) and the fact that I stayed awake through it and enjoyed it in my state says a lot, trust me.

[Conjoshus]

My view? Best...batman... evar!!!!!

But that's just me :) Questionable Gotham City design and all

[Hunter]

I need to see it again before I can form a complete opinion. But my initial response. Definitely best batman ever.

[Moriya]

I agree with what you said frog there were several unnecessarily cheesy lines during the semi chase. And yeah Joker seemed to have one brilliant plan after another and would always appear out of no where, but I let it slide for the most part because the strong points of the movie out weight all of that.

That's how joker always is in the comics. You can't forget as "dark" and "gothic" as this movie is trying to be, it's still following a comic. Even Frank Miller's Joker is insanely adaptable and resourceful, pulling ridiculous schemes out of his ass left and right. That's how he is.



Questionable Gotham City design and all


What is so questionable about it? Gotham city is just a major metropolis, really nothing special about it.

[Frogacuda]

That's how joker always is in the comics. You can't forget as "dark" and "gothic" as this movie is trying to be, it's still following a comic. Even Frank Miller's Joker is insanely adaptable and resourceful, pulling ridiculous schemes out of his ass left and right. That's how he is.
There's a difference between a brilliant, cunning plan, and a showy, elaborate one that will fail if one person is standing 3 feet too far to the left.

[Advocate]

I just want to add. They seem to be using the Grant Morrison Joker ... which states that The Joker is not so much a psychopath, but rather the most brilliant mind on Earth, who has clairvoyance and knows and plans 15 steps before it happens.

I mean each Time the Joker in the comic did something he had an answer and knew the next move Batsie would do. It was never quite explained in the comic, but Grant Morrison answered it in Batman: Arkham Asylum.

Also to answer the origin thing that Frog brought up. You do know that each one The Joker stated ... was his origin?

The first one: Was the one told from Detective Comics back in the late 60's.

The second one to Dawes: Was the one told from The Killing Joke.

There has never been a solid and concrete origin tale of the Joker.

NEVER.

[jp]

The second one to Dawes: Was the one told from The Killing Joke.




Mmm... not quite. In "Killing Joke" the only involvement of his wife was that she was pregnant and, despite his being a failed comedian, she still supported him. And then she died in a fire the night before he was to go on that caper as "The Red Hood". She didn't leave him or have any scars or anything.

Then they kinda fucked it up in "The Return of Hush" or whatever the Batman Gotham Knight Hush story was, and added the gangsters killing his wife and stuff.


But you're right anyways. That is awesome that they captured his whole "reimagining himself" idea down pat. He never gives a solid origin, it just changes from time to time. :)

[Frogacuda]

Also to answer the origin thing that Frog brought up. You do know that each one The Joker stated ... was his origin?
But they didn't bother to do a whole origin story to set up the movie and they referenced multiple origins to make light of that. I liked it. Superhero movies often spend too much time on origins and don't get to explore the characters as well because of it and maybe that even happened in this movie with Two-Face, but at least the Joker got to shine.

[Conjoshus]

What is so questionable about it? Gotham city is just a major metropolis, really nothing special about it.

Because it doesn't match the look I imagine when I think live action Gotham City...

http://images.elfwood.com/art/a/v/aviv/gotham_mural.jpg.rZd.84883.jpg
http://www.geocities.com/batmanmagazine/gotham.jpg

I just don't envision Chi-town as a real Gotham City... But it's all good, I still loved the movie so my only minor gripe doesn't really matter :)

[Frogacuda]

I didn't mind the scaled down Gotham because it was part of what the movie was going for. This isn't Burton's Batman, it's a more down to earth approach

[Conjoshus]

I kinda figured that's what the movie was going for...

[Advocate]

Mmm... not quite. In "Killing Joke" the only involvement of his wife was that she was pregnant and, despite his being a failed comedian, she still supported him. And then she died in a fire the night before he was to go on that caper as "The Red Hood". She didn't leave him or have any scars or anything.

No, but he was also a gambler. He was a failed comedian, but before that he was a gambler.


Then they kinda fucked it up in "The Return of Hush" or whatever the Batman Gotham Knight Hush story was, and added the gangsters killing his wife and stuff.

I kinda hated that ... it was needless to continue the Hush storyline.



But you're right anyways. That is awesome that they captured his whole "reimagining himself" idea down pat. He never gives a solid origin, it just changes from time to time. :)

He has no past. The Joker is like Batman's self imagined demon. His white whale. He's Captain Ahab and The Joker is Moby Dick.

And this movie captured that ... perfectly.

And To Josh ... yes I always thought Gotham was NY .... OH WAIT ... IT IS. No really it is modeled aftyer NYC.

[jp]

I kinda hated that ... it was needless to continue the Hush storyline.



Yeah, I hated the way they did the Joker in The Return of Hush. And the liberties they took with his backstory were just lame.

I don't even think Gotham Knight was a very good Batman comic at all to begin with though. :shrug:


Though I cannot wait to see how Dini does Hush. :nod: I expect greatness from this. Hush is just on an entirely different level than Batman's other villains. And while I would love to see Hush in a movie, I know it wouldn't work with what Nolan is trying to do since Hush cannot possibly show up that early in Batman's career.

[DarthArcturus]

Gotham in Batman Begins seemed to be a bit more like those pictures you posted Josh esp having that nicely designed subway system going through Wayne enterprises. But alas no big deal :)

[DarthArcturus]

well looks like Dark Knight broke the weekend gross record set by Spiderman 3 last year congrads!

[jp]

well looks like Dark Knight broke the weekend gross record set by Spiderman 3 last year congrads!

Good. Because Spider-Man 3 fucking sucked.

[DarthArcturus]

Good. Because Spider-Man 3 fucking sucked.
:goodpost:

spider man 3 had a huge dropoff after its 1st week. I don't think Batman will have it happen. I'm pretty confident to say that it will end up in the top 25 all time grossing films.

[Moriya]

History channel has a batman tech show on (right now if you are PST). Basically it shows that all the tech in Dark Knight is either currently possible or soon will be. pretty cool.

[DarthArcturus]

I Just got back from watching it a second time at a very late showing with about 6 people in the theater and much more comfortable seats. Needless to say it was even better the second time as I noticed several things I didn't the first time :D

[oneironama]

I Just got back from watching it a second time at a very late showing with about 6 people in the theater and much more comfortable seats. Needless to say it was even better the second time as I noticed several things I didn't the first time :Di wanted to see it again immediately after finishing the credits but i'm making myself wait for dvd. It'll feel more special that way and give me something else to look forward to later.

[MAD.MANTIS]

If I can make a little time by this weekend, I'll go see it. Can't wait.

[Advocate]

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[oneironama]

thanks for the awesome gifs Advocate :D

[Advocate]

You're welcome. :)

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