The N64 is the most overhyped system of all time!

[Da_Shocker]

True story!

[Frogacuda]

It certainly has a few of the most overhyped games of all time on it.

Basically all of Rare's games except Blast Corp were way overrated. I also actually think OoT is no where near what it's cracked up to be as far as fun factor goes, but I'll give it points for playability and control at least.

[Newport420]

At first I thought there was embedded or invisi-text happening in this thread when I suddenly realized its just plain ol flame bait.

Congrats sir!

If this was a spinoff of the "debate" going on in September NPD sales thread than I apologize for the above. If that is not the case there really needed to be more in that first post IMO.

[NeoZeedeater]

It's a weak system in terms of quantity and variety (compared to the Playstation and Saturn) and Nintendo's worst system for third-party games (not including the VB) but it had some really shining moments.

Super Mario 64 and Ocarina were brilliant and brought their genres to the level for 3d. I wanted to love Majora's Mask but I don't think its experimental design worked that well.

Sin & Punishment is arguably the best rail shooter ever. I don't like Bangaio as much as most Treasure fans but it was good stuff.

Waverace 64 is still the best water-based racer today. The atmosphere is excellent. F-Zero X, Diddy Kong Racing, and Beetle Adventure racing were impressive racers, too.

Super Smash Bros. was surpassed by its GC sequel but at the time it was an amazing party game. The N64 blew for traditional fighters, though.

StarFox 64 was a worthy sequel. I even liked the ground parts most people hated.

While I do think it's hugely overrated, Goldeneye was pretty cool for the brief period of time there weren't many similar "gadget-y" first-person shooters on PC.


I liked 1080 Snowboarding, Snowboard Kids series, Winback, Goemon's Great Adventure, Blast Corps, Conker's Bad Fur Day, Body Harvest, Space Station Silicon Valley, Turok series, Rocket, Pokemon Snap, and Doom 64, too.

[mr_chun]

I never had one. I always wanted one.

[Da_Shocker]

I want one too lol

[Bruhaha69]

Up until the DS and Wii, it was the only Nintendo I owned and still is the only Nintendo system I ever bought new. Yes......Mario 64 was the game that made me put my Sega loyalty/Nintendo hatred on the back burner......and lead to me selling my excellent collection of Genesis games.....all 64 of them....ironic, no?

[Frogacuda]

I didn't own an N64 (or a PSX or a Saturn) until like... after the DC era had passed. I was a PC gamer for those years.

I think the N64 is overhyped because of the sheer amount of kids these days that grew up on it and declare how much better it is than the PlayStation and Saturn, and it's just not. That doesn't mean it doesn't have anything worthwhile for it, though, it just means they people responsible for hyping the system are overzealous and insane

[jp]

I never understood what the big deal about the N64 was myself. My little sister had one and I just wasn't getting into any of the games I played. My 8th grade girlfriend had one too and played Golden Eye on it... but I still didn't see what the big deal was. :shrug:


Then again, I had a Saturn at the time. ;)

[Da_Shocker]

This is why I said that the N64 is the most overhyped console of all time.

1. Nintendo made all kind of outrageous statesments like how it woul be so much better graphically than the 32-Bit systems. This turned out to be far from the truth. Remember the Terminator and Jurassic Park claims they made. Guess Mario 64 and Turok count then.

The graphics were never ever that good. I remember how everybody was talkin about how pop up was going to be a thing of the past and no pixelated graphics! Instead we got fog and blurry graphics. LOL! The N64 could do great alpha blending (water effects) and sum other effect that no other 32-Bit system could do. But let's face it the actual models looked like sh!t. And lord knows it could'nt touch the Model 2 board.

2. The limited selection of games is just horrible. It pissed me off to know end that this sytems comes out with 2 games! 2 FCKIN games yet sold 300,000 units in one day. This was fuled by Sario 64 (what I called it back in 96) which was not as great as the media made it out to be. The n64 had 0 good 3D fighters, no Street Fighter games, NO great RPG games. Other than Nintendo games there wasn't much in terms of great 3rd party games of coure people will say you don't but these systems for 3rd party games but that wasn't the case with the SNES.

3. Nintendo still decides to use the limited carts. This of course was probaly the main reason why the the graphics were so limited. But this also drove up the prices of the games.The prices were very high ranging from 59.99 all the way to 79.99 yet people still bought the games in fact millions of them. Which isn't to say that they weren't worth it but still.

4. Interactive Sound. Now Next-Generation was the first magazine to make a big deal about this. I think they even claimed that the N64 was the first system to do it. But that is not true I know that Road Runner game that Sega put out had interactive music in it!

5. 20 million units sold in the US and 5 million sold in Japan. Go figure.

[Frogacuda]

This is why I said that the N64 is the most overhyped console of all time.

1. Nintendo made all kind of outrageous statesments like how it woul be so much better graphically than the 32-Bit systems. This turned out to be far from the truth. Remember the Terminator and Jurassic Park claims they made. Guess Mario 64 and Turok count then.

These were indeed ridiculous claims, but surely Sony has done worse with their Emotion Engine and Cell hype.

[jp]

These were indeed ridiculous claims, but surely Sony has done worse with their Emotion Engine and Cell hype.

Sony is the pinnacle of bullshit hype.

[Da_Shocker]

I dont know much about the Cell but I do know about the EE. They did put out sum far out numbers

[Frogacuda]

As far as tech specs and such go, yeah, I'd say that they have the title pretty much locked down.

[Melf]

I dont know much about the Cell but I do know about the EE. They did put out sum far out numbers

4D!

[ngt]

Goldeneye was great.

[NeoZeedeater]

NO great RPG games.
It slipped my mind for some reason in the first post I did but I definitely think Paper Mario is a great RPG albeit an atypical one. The sequel wasn't as good, though.


I think the N64 is overhyped because of the sheer amount of kids these days that grew up on it and declare how much better it is than the PlayStation and Saturn, and it's just not.
It reminds me of all the Brit kids that got a Spectrum instead of a C64 (probably because it was cheaper) and still declare it the better game system even though it wasn't at all.

[Specineff]

The N64 could do great alpha blending (water effects) and sum other effect that no other 32-Bit system could do. But let's face it the actual models looked like sh!t. And lord knows it could'nt touch the Model 2 board.

That's Z-buffering, buddy. Alpha Blending refers to transparencies, SNES-style.

But yeah. Let me tell you a little story...

Once upon a time in 1995 Mexico, the official Nintendo Magazine (Club Nintendo) sold a lot of lies to the players over there, mocking the PS1, because the N64 had:

"Real-time cutscenes, not prerecorded like its competition." (Yeah, which is why Squaresoft left you, who needs beautiful FMV when you can have 25-polygon models with flat hands and octogonal faces act out a realistic scene?)

"Trilinear MIP-map texture interpolation, which means you won't see huge pixels when something gets close to you." (Right, blur-o-vison FTW, now you know what glaucoma sufferers go through!)


"No loading times, with cartridges you can have your levels at the press of a button!" (Only 60+ USD plus import tax, of course. But you can spare the food for one month when it comes to playing Gems like Superman 64!)

And so on. All perpetrated by a lying squad of asshats who didn't hesitate to announce games like SNES Tom and Jerry and Superman 64, to be "worthy of your time as you'll have lots of fun with them!"

I know that it doesn't matter to you as US gamers, but the second half of the 90's were a pain for the non-SNERDS in Mexico... until FF7, MGS and Resident Evil 2 arrived at the scene. :lol:

They had promised CGI-like graphics.. only to deliver blurry textures pasted on models with less polygons than those found on 1St generation PS1 games.

[DarthArcturus]

I acutally liked the n64 a lot because a lot my friends at the time had one. Just like gamecube and wii its great with group of friends. Goldeneye, mario kart 64, and Perfect Dark were pretty fun in split screen. Launch for it was awful though. Mario 64 and then a few alright titles ( For the record I like Shadow of the Empire) then months of no games.

[Wildcat]

I really liked my N64. Some of my favorite games of all time came out on it (Zelda: OoT, Mario 64, Goldeneye, Ogre Battle 64, Body Harvest). However, it truly was a system that was overhyped to be more than it could be. The games on it all too often relied on fog or blur to push their games, the texturing was awful, and the lack of a lot of third party support really did hurt its history. Still though, some of my best gaming moments lie on that console, and it's one of my favorites. ^_^

[Hunter]

I don't ever remember the N64 being hyped . . .

[shinjirod]

That's Z-buffering, buddy. Alpha Blending refers to transparencies, SNES-style.

But yeah. Let me tell you a little story...

Once upon a time in 1995 Mexico, the official Nintendo Magazine (Club Nintendo) sold a lot of lies to the players over there, mocking the PS1, because the N64 had:

"Real-time cutscenes, not prerecorded like its competition." (Yeah, which is why Squaresoft left you, who needs beautiful FMV when you can have 25-polygon models with flat hands and octogonal faces act out a realistic scene?)

"Trilinear MIP-map texture interpolation, which means you won't see huge pixels when something gets close to you." (Right, blur-o-vison FTW, now you know what glaucoma sufferers go through!)


"No loading times, with cartridges you can have your levels at the press of a button!" (Only 60+ USD plus import tax, of course. But you can spare the food for one month when it comes to playing Gems like Superman 64!)

And so on. All perpetrated by a lying squad of asshats who didn't hesitate to announce games like SNES Tom and Jerry and Superman 64, to be "worthy of your time as you'll have lots of fun with them!"

I know that it doesn't matter to you as US gamers, but the second half of the 90's were a pain for the non-SNERDS in Mexico... until FF7, MGS and Resident Evil 2 arrived at the scene. :lol:

They had promised CGI-like graphics.. only to deliver blurry textures pasted on models with less polygons than those found on 1St generation PS1 games.

Thats your fault for reading ANY gaming magazine in mexico. Theyre all shit.

[The Skies]

Shadows of the Empire FTW!!!

I loved the N64, it had my favorite racing game to, MRC Racing! :D

It's funny, the review i just read said it only had 3 tracks in the game, haha...I dont remember that, i swear there was more. But with those 3 tracks, you could play them reversed and mirrored. :p

[Specineff]

Thats your fault for reading ANY gaming magazine in mexico. Theyre all shit.


Was there anything else besides Club Nintendo back then? LamePro in Espanol sank, and same with VideoTips. Besides, I only picked them up to read their next load of BS.

[KANG the Crybaby]

This was true, until the PS3 was released.

At least Nintendo had GAMES worth buying at launch, even if it was only 4. My brother had Pilotwings 64, Mario 64 and Star Wars: Shadows of the Empire and they all ruled for the time.

[The Skies]

PILOTWINGS!!! I sitll have that, sweet game! :D
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I want Pilot Wii-ngs :p

[Da_Shocker]

I thought the N64 did have a few good to great games.

[sapphire]

I thought the N64 did have a few good to great games.

I agree..I used to love GoldenEye, I believe the lion king game was on that too, mario party, some I can't remember right now.:p

[Zorro7]

Overhyped it may have been, but I remember spending lots of hours on Rogue Squadron and Rainbow Six (did you know that this version had co-op!?) Along with Star Fox and other titles mentioned here. Yes, even the Zelda versions which Frog has come to loathe so much. (though Majora's Mask had be a little baffled)

[DarthArcturus]

ah how could I forget Rogue Squadron!

[shinjirod]

Was there anything else besides Club Nintendo back then? LamePro in Espanol sank, and same with VideoTips. Besides, I only picked them up to read their next load of BS.

Internet!

[Bruhaha69]

Games I liked and played before getting rid of this piece of garbage:

Wave Race 64 - To this day it still plays pretty good. I didn't own it, but some kid let me borrow it for a very long time my freshman year in high school. It was pretty great.

Mario 64 - I wanted to hate this game so much before I tried it. I was pretty blown away by it my first play and it's the only reason I bought the damn N64.

Blast Corps - I was very surprised at how much fun this turned out being. It could get frustrating, but the destruction was pretty cool at the time.

Starfox 64 - I really liked this game. Very fun rail shooter with the exception of the crappy submarine level. Other than that, I played it until I unlocked everything and had a good time doing it.

I tried to hold out as long as I could for a Zelda game. It didn't take long before I said "fuck this" and traded it for my friend's Playstation just in time to get Castlevania: SotN and Metal Gear Solid.

[Specineff]

Internet? In Mexico? In 1995? PREPOSTEROUS!

[shinjirod]

i was there.

[Da_Shocker]

I was online back when it came out but we had those old ass lynx browsers lol if you know what that was.

[Specineff]

Not in Guadalajara, Shinji. At least not back then.

[shinjirod]

man i lived in cancun. it may not have been widespread, but it existed. NEways, not reading anything and going by instinct was better than reading the crap magazines we got. lamepro and CN sucked baaaaaaad.