Good Times on PSU [Archive]

Hunter

11-06-2007, 08:05 PM

Just figured i'd show you guys what you're missing out on, on PSU. No content my ass!! This month has had neverending awesome clubbing with mad XP and UBER Meseta, Ultra RARZ and Prize giveaways!!

See pics, and the rar has a video. Yes, you see correcty, Rappy Suits!! YAY!

http://www.got-next.com/board/attachment.php?attachmentid=1277&stc=1&d=1194394506

http://www.got-next.com/board/attachment.php?attachmentid=1278&stc=1&d=1194394506

DarthArcturus

11-06-2007, 08:52 PM

theres a new PS game ?

:p jokes jokes

I need to barrow this from my brother once the holiday season is over and I finish all these big releases.

Bruhaha69

11-06-2007, 08:53 PM

That's pretty cool. I'm still waiting on the Illuminus stuff. I don't have the TV time to really give online stuff a shot, so that'll have to wait for now.

Hunter

11-06-2007, 10:02 PM

Well, Illuminus is comepletely online, so dont buy it until you can get online.

DarthArcturus

11-06-2007, 10:44 PM

how many people are still playing this online btw hunter?

Bruhaha69

11-07-2007, 07:34 AM

Well, Illuminus is comepletely online, so dont buy it until you can get online.

Are you sure? I could swear there was mention of new single player stuff.

"The player investigates through a series of single-player missions, meeting familiar characters like Ethan Waber from Episode 1, along with other new ones, including a GUARDIAN instructor, Laia Martinez."

Hunter

11-07-2007, 12:25 PM

how many people are still playing this online btw hunter?

On the weekends about 4 thousand people are online. Small amount, I know, but it's more than enough for finding a group. Hopefully there'll be more once the expansion comes out.

Are you sure? I could swear there was mention of new single player stuff.

It's single player, but just like Episode 2, it's only playable online. Just so you know, Episode 2 is 10 more story missions that are available online only. It takes place a few months after the offline story.

Another pic, me in my room with my most prized posession, my Burning Rangers poster!

http://www.got-next.com/board/attachment.php?attachmentid=1280&stc=1&d=1194453523

perfekchaos

11-08-2007, 12:11 AM

I've already discussed my disdain for this game in the reader review. These rappy suits won't sway my opinion.:(

And sheesh, only 4k users?? They should stop wasting money on new expansions and create a new online RPG that's actually good.

Hunter

11-08-2007, 12:33 PM

The rappy suits are a minor part of what's going on. And they already have a great game, that's getting a lot better.

Melf

11-08-2007, 08:41 PM

I beat the single player quest but won't touch this online unless it's free. I remember paying for PSO for months and getting barely anything, and Sega's not going to get any more of my money for anything PS-related. The price for playing a game with barely anyone online is insane when there are games teeming with people on Live for free.

Frogacuda

11-08-2007, 09:39 PM

Live for free.

O RLY?

perfekchaos

11-08-2007, 10:11 PM

The rappy suits are a minor part of what's going on. And they already have a great game, that's getting a lot better.Yeah, it's so good that it has over 4 thousand subscribers.

Are you delusional? There's a LOT of room for improvement and I think it would be best to just start from scratch instead of making small tweaks. No matter how good this game becomes, they won't win over any new players.

Hunter

11-08-2007, 10:22 PM

The reason for poor sales is because it is last gen game released in the next gen era. Sales are rarely an indicator for quality. There is some improvement needed, and what little needs to be done, will be handled by the expansion. I'm sorry you didn't get another PSO rehash, but there's nothing I can do about that.

As for this comment from Melf, " I remember paying for PSO for months and getting barely anything, ". I have no idea what you mean. What did you expect to get from it?

11-08-2007, 10:51 PM

As for this comment from Melf, " I remember paying for PSO for months and getting barely anything, ". I have no idea what you mean. What did you expect to get from it?

For $10 a month I imagine he expected cheaters/dupers to be dealt with, new quests, new areas even, new enemies, etc.

Instead we got holiday themes. Yay...

I don't know. There are several people that are putting pressure on me to get into PSU. But I really don't want to. I look back on PSO, and while I had a blast, I do realize it was a monumental waste of time (as is ANY MMO). Paying a monthly fee was stupid too, since all I wanted to do was play with my friends (from the really-real world), so me being online was rather pointless anyways.

perfekchaos

11-09-2007, 12:20 AM

I'm sorry you didn't get another PSO rehash, but there's nothing I can do about that.

:nuts:

Oh please, one of my biggest problems with this game is because it IS just a rehash of PSO. Over 5 years since the release of PSO and Sonic Team barely changed the gameplay. Online gaming has advanced much since the days of the Dreamcast and this game feels left behind.

And don't tell me to invest more time or wait for new content. I reached lv 28 or so and that was enough to realize that this game is plain outdated. You also said it yourself that this was a last gen game released in the next gen era. Hence why I think they should start fresh.

Bruhaha69

11-09-2007, 01:16 AM

ShinobiWan1

11-09-2007, 11:08 AM

Live Free or Die Hard!

Hunter

11-09-2007, 01:03 PM

For $10 a month I imagine he expected cheaters/dupers to be dealt with, new quests, new areas even, new enemies, etc.

Instead we got holiday themes. Yay...

I don't know. There are several people that are putting pressure on me to get into PSU. But I really don't want to. I look back on PSO, and while I had a blast, I do realize it was a monumental waste of time (as is ANY MMO). Paying a monthly fee was stupid too, since all I wanted to do was play with my friends (from the really-real world), so me being online was rather pointless anyways.

Yeah, Ver.2 did promise an end to cheaters and didn't deliver. But PSU is pretty good about that. Only major cheats i've heard on where on PS2 and PC, and they were fixed rather quickly. There's currently a glitch on PSU you might like jp, which allows Rangers to not lose PP. It will probably be patched soon though. Sucks too, because it was really helpful. Aside from that, there's nothing else going on that could be considered cheating.

:nuts:

Oh please, one of my biggest problems with this game is because it IS just a rehash of PSO. Over 5 years since the release of PSO and Sonic Team barely changed the gameplay. Online gaming has advanced much since the days of the Dreamcast and this game feels left behind.

And don't tell me to invest more time or wait for new content. I reached lv 28 or so and that was enough to realize that this game is plain outdated. You also said it yourself that this was a last gen game released in the next gen era. Hence why I think they should start fresh.

The last gen comment was in reference to the graphics. As for not having changed from PSO, you've got to be on crack. Everyones biggest complaints are how much it's changed from PSO. There's still a lot of similarities, for instance the fact that it's still party based, although the party size is increased. But a lot has changed. As for content, I don't see how anyone can complain about lack of content at this point. But if you got bored early on, that's understandable. They did take a while to start adding content, but to be honest, after about 3 months there was a good amount of content already, and after six, there was TONS.

11-09-2007, 01:27 PM

Eh, I also hate getting into MMOs as a n00b after they've been out for awhile...

So... yeah, probably no PSU for me.

Hunter

11-09-2007, 01:29 PM

11-09-2007, 01:32 PM

You done screwed up. The past few weeks have been noob heaven. 150% XP, fast missions, and tons of free cash and rares. You could have caught up in like two weeks. It's still going on for another week.

No money. Also, Contra 4 this week and Mass Effect next week.

But let me know when they plan on doing that again, I may check it out then. :nod:

Hunter

11-09-2007, 02:28 PM

lol. This will probably never happen again. But I'm pretty sure they will have plenty of other events that are similiar. I missed the last one. :(

Melf

11-09-2007, 09:11 PM

O RLY?

You know what I meant. :p

Free as in "no extra monthly fee." I have Live paid until Dec. 2008.

perfekchaos

11-10-2007, 05:55 AM

The last gen comment was in reference to the graphics. As for not having changed from PSO, you've got to be on crack. Everyones biggest complaints are how much it's changed from PSO. There's still a lot of similarities, for instance the fact that it's still party based, although the party size is increased. But a lot has changed. As for content, I don't see how anyone can complain about lack of content at this point. But if you got bored early on, that's understandable. They did take a while to start adding content, but to be honest, after about 3 months there was a good amount of content already, and after six, there was TONS.

I also agree with people who complain about the changes from PSO. These are minor changes that do not improve the game at all, or seem like a step back. No more MAGS? No more crit strike? No more spells for hunters/rangers? Bullets for rangers? I thought those were all lame changes.

As for my complaint about it being a rehash, that's because the CORE gameplay hasn't improved at all. You still start in a hub city and enter dungeons with no consistent overworld unlike other games that charge monthly. The AI is still retarded with most enemies slowly walking towards you. And the combat has taken a step back. Unless you are a force or a hybrid, you have a very limited amount of attacks. ONE button for rangers and two for hunters. I guess they wanted to make each class unique, but that only dumbed down all the classes.

Couldn't they have come up with some better ideas for the combat than a one button special move for hunters?

Hunter

11-11-2007, 06:39 AM

I also agree with people who complain about the changes from PSO. These are minor changes that do not improve the game at all, or seem like a step back. No more MAGS? No more crit strike? No more spells for hunters/rangers? Bullets for rangers? I thought those were all lame changes.

As for my complaint about it being a rehash, that's because the CORE gameplay hasn't improved at all. You still start in a hub city and enter dungeons with no consistent overworld unlike other games that charge monthly. The AI is still retarded with most enemies slowly walking towards you. And the combat has taken a step back. Unless you are a force or a hybrid, you have a very limited amount of attacks. ONE button for rangers and two for hunters. I guess they wanted to make each class unique, but that only dumbed down all the classes.

Couldn't they have come up with some better ideas for the combat than a one button special move for hunters?

Mags never made sense to me, they were a drag to level and it sucked to have so much of your stats dependent on one piece of equipment. PM's aren't much better, but at least they aren't mandatory like mags. I always hated that YOU needed to level your mag, or you would suck compared to everyone else. Why should some robot thingy carry a third of my stats. I like the idea of PM's, now those machines aren't forced down our throats, but they are there if you need them, and they are a lot more useful. Sything items, storing stuff, and aiding in combat with customizable AI.

As for crit strike, WHAT? There most definitely still are crits, you're a bit confused there. As for technics as Hunter/Rangers, it's a but different. Hunter/Rnager classes aren't REAL classes anymore, more like Training classes. If you want a Hunter with techs, make a Wartecher, like I am. The advanced classes add a lot more depth to the class system, making for a much deeper game, and the ability to change classes on the fly is awesome.

Anyways, I always thought it was absurd in PSO how Forces were rather worthless since Hunters and Rangers could EVERY single last tech they could, AND at the same level. There needs to be balance, a reason for each class. Make techs exclusive to forces and advanced classes makes sense as far as balancing the classes.

As for bullets, I really don't see the issue. Rangers a pretty strong class, I mean, they have good HP, ATP, and other stats, plus they can hit from range. THere needs to be soe drawbacks. On top of which, PP recharges, there are items to recharge, regular charging points, and you can always carry two or three weapons. Not to mention that Guns tend to have tons of PP.

As for expecting persisten online dungeons, I dont see why you would. It's following a classic PS formula its always followed. The group of adventurers runnung through quests and missions. It's what made it different as PSO, and it's what makes it different as a series. If you want the other, then go play WoW.

As for AI, I admit, it's never been very smart. But that's a staple of the genre. I suppose they could have done better, but there's not much incentive to do so. I mean, the enemies are plenty dangerous as they are . . .

As for the combat being dumbed down. WHAT? I mean, seriously? Did you EVER play PSO? Tell me what was SOOO deeps about the combat in PSO? I mean, really. It was just button mashing with a rythm. Yes, you had three attacks! OMG!! LIGHT, HEAVY, and SPECIAL. Which where all the same attack, except they took longer to cast. All PSU did, was take the same formula, but removed the third attack, and gave the second one a visual flair for hunters, with some useful abilities. Not to mention the ability to move while attacking, so you can direct your strokes, or lock on, and strafe, which is useful for ranger and forces as well. Elements are still important in casting spells. Comboing Skills with Normal attacks can be very helpful and necessary for PP conservation. Rangers have first person mode, which is VERY useful. Especially since varioues enemies have weak points that can be targeted. And if that weren't enough, in the expansion they will be adding counters and reversals.

Bleh, I've gone on too long.

perfekchaos

11-11-2007, 05:45 PM

Specineff

11-11-2007, 10:22 PM

You know what I meant. :p

Free as in "no extra monthly fee." I have Live paid until Dec. 2008.

Wait. You mean there's no more Hunter's License crap?

Melf

11-12-2007, 01:40 AM

No, there is. That's the problem. :(

Hunter

11-12-2007, 12:19 PM

Look, all I'm saying is that, in this day and age, PSU is plain outdated and not worth the $10 monthly fee. I mean, look at Guild Wars which offers the same type of dungeon crawling experience with NO monthly fees. I just have a feeling that anyone who still plays PSU is just a Phantasy Star and/or Sega fanboy. No sane person would pay $10 a month for this mediocre game.

Yes, I love Phantasy Star and Sega, but not enough to give them $10 a month for this.

See, that's what I take issue with. Youd on't want to pay the fee, fine. But it is a very well made game. And I'm tired of people comparing it to PC MMO's. Just like any other genre, there will be a difference. Console hasn't had these type of games regularly, and for a console Online RPG, I'd love for you to name some others that equal or surpass it? Having a tough time? That's because the only other option it FFXI for us console users. You have to remember, different platform, different standards. PSU is a HUGE improvement on the PSO formula. You may not enjoy it, but there's no arguing the technical merits. It is a much deeper game, with a larger world, TONS more quests, not to mention a better story.

And to be honest, I've gone over this time and again. The real reason people don't like PSU is very simple, because all of their old frined aren't playing or they're having trouble making new friends. The thing I've found is that, if everyone who was getting together to bitch, instead got together on PSU, they'd love the game. Basically, the game "sucks" because there aren't enough people playing, a lot of the areas feel barren. But then no one plays, because the game "sucks". So it's just a neverending cycle.

perfekchaos

11-12-2007, 05:42 PM

Bruhaha69

11-12-2007, 06:14 PM

I liked the single player but don't feel like paying for online. I thought it was pretty fun, even if it was a little monotonous at times.

Hunter

11-12-2007, 06:33 PM

Oh please, you can have fun with any online game with a lot of friends. If PSU doesn't have a lot of subscribers, then too bad, it has failed to capture the attention of gamers. I was able to enjoy WoW easily just playing solo to complete quests and playing with friends was just another cool benefit that added to the experience. You should never "need" friends to enjoy an online game.

And back to what I said earlier about only PS and SEGA fanboys liking this game....look at this thread. You tried to convince us that we were missing out because of Rappy suits.:rimshot:

That has to be the stupidest post in this forums history. You shouldn't need other people to enjoy a multiplayer game. Right . . .

And the point of this thread was to show something I thought was fun and cool about a game I am enjoying. Stuff I thought might interest others, many of which are Phantasy Star fans, and some of which enjoyed PSU. Note Burning rangers poster for SEGA fans, and I was going to post pics of Chaos and whatnot. Thx for trolling.

perfekchaos

11-12-2007, 10:26 PM

I mean friends as in a steady list of people you constantly play with. Look at shooters like Halo. I can easily join a match with a bunch of strangers and have fun. I can party with random strangers in WoW to complete quests and still have fun, unless they're a bunch of morons.

You said that people didn't enjoy PSU because they were unwilling to make new friends. I think that's just a lame excuse.

Don't even call me troll. Am I not allowed to express my opinion on this repetitive and dull game? Just look at all the mediocre scores it got from the press. Even with all the negative reviews, Sega fans like me were still hyped and gave the game a chance. And after the first month, smart people cancelled their subscriptions.

Hunter

11-13-2007, 08:36 PM

The PSOW Cam(Refresh, It Updates):

http://www.pso-world.com/downloads/cam/cam.jpg

Specineff

11-14-2007, 03:47 AM

Great. PSU has now become a Furry convention.